Vocals - Warning, a bit long

EwanG wrote:

I've decided, for the time being, to just wait for 1.1 to come out, and then to go ahead and "shoot" the entire episodes without vocals. I will then add subtitles to the final product. I did a little experiment with the first couple episodes using some talent over the net, and with that many folks and voices, it just wasn't working.

I think for the average production using a handful of voices that the various solutions discussed on here are reasonable. But when you try to make something this big, then something has to give - either budget or vocals. Unfortunately, in this case the budget is rather absolute

Oh that is a shame. I can do about three or four different female voices. I can do a couple of different male voices. I have a friend who can do the same. Wouldn't that help? I hate to see you spend all this time on something and not have enough actors to do the job.

I don't know how in demand my talents are, but I'm also more than happy to do voice work and give back to this community in any way I can (I play Joe and a lot of incidental characters on the Adventures of Luke and Joe).

Geiiga wrote:

I don't know how in demand my talents are, but I'm also more than happy to do voice work and give back to this community in any way I can (I play Joe and a lot of incidental characters on the Adventures of Luke and Joe).

Hey I notice you are in Topeka. I live in Kansas City, MO,north of the river. Anyway I hope he takes us all up on our offers for his movie.

Well, what I'd REALLY like to do, and perhaps y'all are the folks to do it, is to hand over my script to folks who are better at the 3D production and voices, and let y'all do the project as y'all would like. I would still do the final film editing and provide the music, as well as the promotion and other after production work. But that would let me concentrate on my strong suite - telling a story - while letting those who are good at showing and/or performing a story do what they do best. I'd ideally like to complete the full series first, and then start releasing episodes to support a release a week, but am open to other suggestions.

If any of y'all are interested, let me know. I'd be happy to send folks the first episode via email (just PM me with your email address) if you want to see the script.

FWIW...

I've was thinking of something like this earlier today. I feel that my strongest points are pacing and camerawork (and I benefit greatly from working with some amazingly talented people). Then I watch other people's movies, I'm blown away by the lighting and the sound.

It makes me wonder what a collaborative product would look like where all the very talented people we have here and let each of them play to their strengths.

EwanG wrote:

Well, what I'd REALLY like to do, and perhaps y'all are the folks to do it, is to hand over my script to folks who are better at the 3D production and voices, and let y'all do the project as y'all would like. I would still do the final film editing and provide the music, as well as the promotion and other after production work. But that would let me concentrate on my strong suite - telling a story - while letting those who are good at showing and/or performing a story do what they do best. I'd ideally like to complete the full series first, and then start releasing episodes to support a release a week, but am open to other suggestions.

If any of y'all are interested, let me know. I'd be happy to send folks the first episode via email (just PM me with your email address) if you want to see the script.

FWIW...

I can recruit all the voice actors, supply their lines, do the music -- I have a lot of musicians who love having their music in films and in general do all the sound editing. If someone else can actually shoot the movie. I would do it all but I have another project I promised someone else I would do that is going to take about a month. Would anyone volunteer to shoot the movie?

If we do it as a group, perhaps there's an online workspace we could use? Then I could go ahead and post all the scripts up, and then folks could grab their parts as they get to it, and then post their bits as they complete them. As all the elements come together, then I can put them together, and then we can do a review for further edits, etc.

Suggestions for where we could do this?

EwanG wrote:

If we do it as a group, perhaps there's an online workspace we could use? Then I could go ahead and post all the scripts up, and then folks could grab their parts as they get to it, and then post their bits as they complete them. As all the elements come together, then I can put them together, and then we can do a review for further edits, etc.

Suggestions for where we could do this?

Try Motionbox

http://www.motionbox.com

It is a site where you can get very large upload space. I have unlimited and any size file I want. And you can also set your videos to private. Perfect for group work.

Let me know what you decided to do and I will be happy to help. I might even be able to go over to my daughter's day camp thing and get some of the kids to record for you. They have kids there ages 6 - 16, boys and girls. They would love it and as I have a laptop, I can take that there and show them what making movies is all about.

Motionbox looks good once we have video to share, but it doesn't appear to allow you to upload voice/music files or the scripts. Is there some kind of collaborative workspace that would support that? Would love to start working with everyone on this, particularly since Super Chris made a great wheelchair. Maybe MS has a workspace function we could use?

Well, CeltX is great for scripts, but I don't know of an easy way to store voice/music files or sets. I'd volunteer to do camerawork, but I think you'd be far better served with someone other than me doing set design, which opens a whole new can of worms.

EwanG wrote:

Motionbox looks good once we have video to share, but it doesn't appear to allow you to upload voice/music files or the scripts. Is there some kind of collaborative workspace that would support that? Would love to start working with everyone on this, particularly since Super Chris made a great wheelchair. Maybe MS has a workspace function we could use?

Well I have a site, my own, where voice/music files could be uploaded for easy sharing. It doesn't allow the kind of collaboration that Motionbox has for editing video, but at least it is a sharable space for other files. I just have to set up upload function for other people, other than myself that is.

Whoever does the sets would have to be the one who actually does all the animations, gestures and puts the movie together in Moviestorm. I am not sure how to share sets yet on Moviestorm. Maybe if one of the staff could poke in here they would tell us how to share sets we have designed.

That way more than one person could design sets.

Every city is a little different. I placed an ad for voice actors, here in San Diego. I made it clear that this was for a movie with no budget. I had 54 responses within 7 days. I had two audition readings outside at Starbucks and settled on 11 actors for my upcoming film. Everyone arrived for the recordings on time and each was completely professional. I have never had that kind of dedication and positive attitude from musicians (of which I count myself).

Now, maybe because we are only 2 hours from Hollywood we have a better allotment of actors than other cities, but it may be worth trying in any city. I placed the ad on Craigslist. I see that San Antonio also has a Craigstlist site (http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/). I placed my ad under the category of Talent.

I did treat my actors very respectfully and emailed them a complete copy of the script and tried to be accommodating of their schedules for the recordings. It was really fun and I feel I can call upon them again in the future. We are scheduling a screening party for next month.

I do feel going with actors may be more rewarding than using subtitles, but you get to make the decision on that one. It is your vision.

Good luck.

rocuro wrote:

Every city is a little different.

Here in Cambridge I went to the drama departments of the two universities, and within a couple of days I had more than enough talented people. They're desperate for the experience, and if you approach the teachers directly, they'll almost certainly do everything they can to help you.

Most drama departments don't teach voice acting for animation, so they're really keen to try it.

I'm thinking that if you, like I, live somewhere where 'sheep news' gets a front page editorial feature in the local newspaper most weeks, then this isn't going to be as easy.
I'll be glad for somebody to prove me wrong

I suspect the key word in the phrase "Every city is a little different" is "city"

Mind you, if you decide to make One Man And His Dog, you'll have a head start there.