Movie Posts?

I did a little 2 min Moviestorm movie (edited w/Vegas)..., I'd like to put it on my veoh.com website. Any objections from the good folks at Short Fuze?

(In otherwords, I'm understanding you don't mind the beta testers sharing the fruits of our efforts from your cool program? I want to make ABSOLUTELY sure?)

Thanks for your help,
Fulkster
(ed: Perhaps there is someone who wants to see our films before we post them?)
(ed: Also, is it alright for me to use a character image from Moviestorm for my (Moviestorm) avatar?)

I'm understanding that we have a confidentiality agreement and are not allowed to post these movies, so some clarification would be very useful.

It would be very useful for me to see the other beta testers movies, and I have a 1 1/2 minute vegas edited composite myself I'd like to share and discuss.

If we are not allowed to post openly could we have a movie post section just for beta testers?

Well the NDA does state that we are allowed to post images and movies...

"In practice, we don't really mind if you post screenshots to your Web sites, boast to your friends about what you're up to, or show off some of the movies you've made. Actually, we'd quite like you to go round saying nice things about us, so the chances are we'll happily let you do things like this."

So I guess we can, but I would like to know for sure too.

Ach I missed that, I was distracted by the 'we will pull your fingernails out if you decompile this program notice'

Some sort of statement would be useful.

chris_damon wrote:

Well the NDA does state that we are allowed to post images and movies...

"In practice, we don't really mind if you post screenshots to your Web sites, boast to your friends about what you're up to, or show off some of the movies you've made. Actually, we'd quite like you to go round saying nice things about us, so the chances are we'll happily let you do things like this."

So I guess we can, but I would like to know for sure too.

I was just making sure... looking at both the expressions in the beta agreement and the NDA, I'm thinking at least they want to be represented fairly and possibly want a chance to review. (And have a little credit/commercial statement in what one does.)

kkffoo wrote:

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If we are not allowed to post openly could we have a movie post section just for beta testers?

(... if this thread does not belong in the open posts, I would like to apologize and I would appreciate if if the moderator/administrator could move it?)

All

we REALLY appreciate that you want to show off your movies, and would be delighted if you let the forum about them FIRST.

Why do we not want you all to rush out and show the world? Partly we are working so darned hard on a nice shiny website for you all to be able to post to that it would be a shame not to have them there first, and partly because we want to get some new costumes, assets and lighting in as soon as we can.

Generally, it won't be long before the PUBLIC beta release (real soon now) which will inevitably involve people spreading movies all over youtube and myspace. You guys / gals might want to keep your powder dry for that.

So, here's a deal: you agree to let this forum know about it first. If it really sucks (and we have the final say on that) you agree to take it down and be a good NDA reader. If its pretty cool, and no one objects within 48 hours, you go ahead and show the world.

If that sounds fair, say so here and I'll get the NDA modified, if not, shout in this thread!

Final decision on Friday?

DavidB wrote:

All

we REALLY appreciate that you want to show off your movies, and would be delighted if you let the forum about them FIRST.

Why do we not want you all to rush out and show the world? Partly we are working so darned hard on a nice shiny website for you all to be able to post to that it would be a shame not to have them there first, and partly because we want to get some new costumes, assets and lighting in as soon as we can.

Generally, it won't be long before the PUBLIC beta release (real soon now) which will inevitably involve people spreading movies all over youtube and myspace. You guys / gals might want to keep your powder dry for that.

So, here's a deal: you agree to let this forum know about it first. If it really sucks (and we have the final say on that) you agree to take it down and be a good NDA reader. If its pretty cool, and no one objects within 48 hours, you go ahead and show the world.

If that sounds fair, say so here and I'll get the NDA modified, if not, shout in this thread!

Final decision on Friday?

Of course it's fair! (and I'd consider it fair, too, if you just wanted us to keep things to ourselves since that is the agreement I signed!)

Here's my little (VERY little) two-minute story. I had a lot of fun doing it:

http://www.spacemanmatt.homestead.com/liaison_.wmv

(If you check out my http://www.spacemanmatt.homestead.com/ site, you'll see it's my storage place for general things relating to "another" movie site- a serial I'm working on (which I expect/hope to be able to move to Moviestorm)... and a picture of my favorite mutt. Don't worry, she doesn't bite.)

If it "really sucks"... I figure that I'll probably have it down in a lot less than 48 hours!

Thanks,
Fulkster

DavidB wrote:

All

we REALLY appreciate that you want to show off your movies, and would be delighted if you let the forum about them FIRST.

Why do we not want you all to rush out and show the world? Partly we are working so darned hard on a nice shiny website for you all to be able to post to that it would be a shame not to have them there first, and partly because we want to get some new costumes, assets and lighting in as soon as we can.

Generally, it won't be long before the PUBLIC beta release (real soon now) which will inevitably involve people spreading movies all over youtube and myspace. You guys / gals might want to keep your powder dry for that.

So, here's a deal: you agree to let this forum know about it first. If it really sucks (and we have the final say on that) you agree to take it down and be a good NDA reader. If its pretty cool, and no one objects within 48 hours, you go ahead and show the world.

If that sounds fair, say so here and I'll get the NDA modified, if not, shout in this thread!

Final decision on Friday?

I DID post asbout my short here before putting it on my site (by way of google video) and no one's complained yet.

Does this mean that there will be a 'theatre' here as well? All in all, there is a little movie called "The Baggage Boy" over on TMO that reallly needed to fall under this 'show us before you embarrass us' rule.

Have people watching my channel on youtube so these are at the mercy of photobucket's compression system (which if you can believe is worse than the one youtube use)
Also these will won't be easily viewable at peak net traffic times.

The first is pure moviestorm + editing filters to get b&w effect.
The second is a composite using one of the characters from moviestorm, and elements from outside the prog.

Hope shiny new site is optimised for these movies

Edited to give youtube links

The Uncomfortable Chair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwybhyEzExQ

Waiting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYjgq8Tbws

Excellent stuff, keep 'em coming

Thanks for that, Fulkster & kkffoo. The team thoroughly enjoyed watching those, and it's a real buzz for us to see something created by someone who doesn't work for us - it's got today off to a great start!

Can we ask you all (actually, our lawyer says I have to insist) to add a Moviestorm credit to any movie you put out - even if it's just a single line of text that says "Made with Moviestorm". (We can give you a Moviestorm logo you can use instead if you prefer.)

We're all looking forward to seeing more of your movies!

A scalable moviestorm logo would be useful.
If you are feeling creative a short animated avi could work also.

Part of my 'waiting' vid was created using sims (the blue transparent baby overlay).
I could envisage a problem in only having the moviestorm logo.
Is this a minefield to be avoided, or would lawyers be happy to have both sims and moviestorm credits for one movie?

My other film...the chair doesn't have this issue, being made completely with moviestorm.

I am used to working with multiple sources so it would be interesting to get an opinion.

We are producing a short animated Moviestorm logo sequence which we will be distributing as part of the public beta - this is just a stop-gap measure till we get that done.

No problem at all with having Sims & Moviestorm credits side by side - all we want to ensure is that people can see where MS has been used.

Makes sense, I've grabbed the forum header png for now.

matt wrote:

Thanks for that, Fulkster & kkffoo. The team thoroughly enjoyed watching those, and it's a real buzz for us to see something created by someone who doesn't work for us - it's got today off to a great start!

Can we ask you all (actually, our lawyer says I have to insist) to add a Moviestorm credit to any movie you put out - even if it's just a single line of text that says "Made with Moviestorm". (We can give you a Moviestorm logo you can use instead if you prefer.)

We're all looking forward to seeing more of your movies!

Thanks... I got (and still am getting) a lot of enjoyment from the hard work all you put into this project!

I believe I did give Moviestorm credit in my little "Liaison" (saying, "animation: Moviestorm"... and a web address)- let me know if it was not adequate. I'll keep watch for your Moviestorm logo... if you happen to have a clever little animated one, that'd be fun to add in; but I'd be happy to place in any logo you want me to.)

(Nice vids, kkffoo!)

(ed: to find a discussion of the Moviestorm logo and downloads- http://www.moviestorm.co.uk/forum/posts/list/221.page)