Moviestorm vs The movies, who will win?

a few days ago searching the forums of "the movies" and learnt about moviestorm
so i was wondering, whats the differences between "the movies" and "moviestorm" ?
and how do the graphix compare to each other?

faded wrote:

a few days ago searching the forums of "the movies" and learnt about moviestorm
so i was wondering, whats the differences between "the movies" and "moviestorm" ?
and how do the graphix compare to each other?

Well thats a hard question to answer as Moviestorm is still in beta and The Movies is a finished product, but the best answer is that Moviestorm gives you much more freedom, no more pick a scene with the same acting animations over and over, you direct it all and you can make your own sets as well, so depending on your level of commitment to your movie, each and every movie made with Moviestorm should be unique, I hope that helps you.

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faded wrote:

a few days ago searching the forums of "the movies" and learnt about moviestorm
so i was wondering, whats the differences between "the movies" and "moviestorm" ?
and how do the graphix compare to each other?

with Moviestorm you have complete freedom to customize your own animations, mod the props, design your own sets (which are huge) by the way. Also you can have as many characters in a scene you want and can animate them all individually. The graphics is better also so your movies have a better resolution when you are finished.

But it is not a "canned" product - it is up to you to write your own movies, design sets everything is up to you. There are no pre-programmed animation sequences (as of yet), but then you have no limitations. Also you can use outside 3D tools and digital photography tools to create landscapes, sets and props. The camera work, although hard to learn is fantastic.

There is a world of difference and Moviestorm goes way beyond the capabilities of The Movies. But if The Movies had been upgraded further, it probably would have come close But it won't be upgraded at all.

The Movies has a certain charm and it is easy to come up with movie ides because of all the pre-proogrammed scenes and sets and it is fun. Also one really BIG difference is that with Moviestorm YOU own the rights to everything you create with the software Moviestorm does not prevent you from doing whatever you want with the movies you make, mods, sets, costumes, characters.

With The Movies, one of the big drawbacks is that LH and Activision own everything created with The Movies - you only hold rights to your STORY or IDEA so you cannot sell your movies or most likely even use them to demo your abilities.

So it kind of depends why you are making movies. For me, this is not a game. It is very real and important that I hold the rights to all my creative content. I have sold artwork all over the United States for many years and it is not fair to those who have purchased my pieces, for me to be giving rights to my creations to a big company like LH (now owned by Microsoft) or Activision. And it isn't fair to me either.

I liked the Movies it was fun at first but it got old fast. My kids won't even play it now.

I am one of the early Beta tester starting with 1.0 and I can say that the people these people (I might be going to far calling them gods) really care what we think of MovieStorm, and they are trying to make this program the best machinima (no make that animation) program on the market.

It is also a big plus that we own what we create. I have not found this in any game program. You do own what ever you make with Antics 3D but at a price of over $1000.00.

If you are looking for an easy way to make your ideas come to life you won't find another program or company better than MovieStorm for any price.

So hands down MovieStorm WINS!!

If Moviestorm continues to support its product (hint: SCI FI!, Westerns!) with regular update packs (spaceships!), there's no competition... Moviestorm (horseback riding!) wins out!

You may just have an answer to your question coming very soon.

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I think Lucinda describes it almost perfectly for me. While The Movies is a (flawed) finished product, MS has the potential to be so much better.

But the creators really need to add in LOADS of content for us to use, otherwise it risks losing much of its potential market.

That's where Fulkster's comments about Sci-Fi/Fantasy/Western/etc content comes in. These things are essential to make the product worthwhile changing to (from The Movies). At least for me!

Plus there are may glitches in the procduct that need ironing out before I'd consider purchasing ANYthing for it. Many of the animations don't seem natural enough (yet). And they also better improve/add-to the camera controls (although to be honest, I haven't delved into that as much as I could).

Still, I have hope!

I find The Movies more user friendly and great for making simple movies very easily. More complicated movies are certainly possible.

The major drawback is restriction of positions and poses. Although due to a major modding breakthrough, it will soon be possible to set your own actions and actor positions. You will also be able to control where, when and how actors move.

Lionhead hold the IP for The Movies. Activision hold the distribution.

I asked Peter Molynuex if there was any possibility of a Movies 2. He said he would like to do more with The Movies yet, but nothing was certain, and it would be a long way off. But he certainly didn't rule it out.

Any future distribution will not be with Activision. It would be through Microsoft, which are far more supportive of Lionhead.

Moviestorm at this time has greater potential and flexibility than The Movies. But it is much more complicated.

I have been fiddling about with Moviestorm and I have figured out a fair bit by myself. I currently feel frustrated by the limited amount of costumes and gestures. But having said that I like what is there, and I do know that this will change.

I feel That the Movies will continue to have a hardcore community for some time to come. It's a great community, which is very close to my heart.

But with Moviestorm I see it growing a lot amongst more serious filmmakers. Casual users will be unlikely to bother.

So in short: Lionhead look unlikely to do anything with The Movies in the short to medium term. Which in that time I see Moviestorm growing very well in this market. I also see it as have a great potential for use in education, especially for film study courses.

So which side of the fence do I fall, Moviestorm or The Movies?

To be honest, both!

I intend to still make movies (don't laugh, those who know me) using The Movies. But I also have a couple of ideas using Moviestorm already. Music videos anyone?

Now where was that rep button again...

The Movies and MovieStorm can barely be compared, one is a discontinued program and the other is a new development.
Also one was planned as a game from start the other is a machinima program.

If The Movies had sold well enough to have a continued development support it would probably win the match when you are looking for something easily accessible.

MovieStorm is lot more complicated to handle and demands a lot more planning and time investment.

Hmm, some very interesting talk... I'm just re-trying Moviestorm now that 2.o is out. I must admit, I stopped using the previous version of Moviestorm 'cause it ran too slow, for starts.
I might not be able to run this version well, my graphics card is a 5200 series. I hope I can.

The Movies is very limited for serious machinima, 1st the game interface, and it's output framerate is too low. That's just the start - the rendering quality of Moviestorm is much nicer, though still not ideal.
But everything I see in Moviestorm seems to be in slo-mo.

It's the bottom line for me. You don't own what you make in "The Movies" in "Moviestorm" you do own your work.

wow, thanks for all the reply's
so moviestorm will be more of program than a game if that what i understood correcly.
thats seems cool to me

faded wrote:

wow, thanks for all the reply's
so moviestorm will be more of program than a game if that what i understood correcly.
thats seems cool to me

Right, it's more of a movie-making tool... making you more of a director. I'm hoping we'll be pleased with what movies folks are making with it in a year's time when the expansion packs are coming out and the modders are doing their thing too.

The answer to the question may lay in this thread.

You can't sell anything you make with "The Movies" game. With Moviestorm you can. That's why Moviestorm will win! The Movies is just a game when it comes down to it, Moviestorm is a tool...