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#1 Ralvaz1

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:48 PM

Would it be possible to create an action in which the actor and actress can dance together, hands on her waist, arms on his shoulders or around his neck (while speaking, or not), is it possible, or does it involve much difficulty?

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:56 AM

That kind of animation, an puppet-puppet interaction, is probably the most complex and hard one to get it done right.

 

If memory serves, apart from those stock interactions bundled with Moviestorm, there are very few examples I'm aware of: 3DTree and Chris Ollie made a few of them, and there's the AfterDark content pack. And that's all, I think.

 

A dancing animation, with both puppets moving coordinatedly all over the floor, I've never seen such a complex thing!

 

Answering your questions, "would it be possible?": yes, it can be done. "Does it involve much difficulty?", It's a real hell of a job even for a first class animator, unless a good mocap system and the tools for importing the mocap data are available. Oh, and a couple of dancers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 10:49 AM

It's a long while ago (way back in beta) but I had a go at faking a dance routine https://youtu.be/JghXn5RcvoY combining existing animations / walks and using camera angles to avoid ugly intersections.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 10:58 AM

It's a long while ago (way back in beta) but I had a go at faking a dance routine https://youtu.be/JghXn5RcvoY combining existing animations / walks and using camera angles to avoid ugly intersections.

 

Holy cow! A 10-year old movie, that's almost a historical document, one of the cuneiform scrawls on a clay tablet kind!

 

Very very clever camerawork, K. An excellent lesson about how to work around those annoying shortcomings in Moviestorm.


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#5 Ralvaz1

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:03 PM

Hace mucho tiempo (camino de regreso en beta), pero tuve que ir a fingir una rutina de baile  https://youtu.be/JghXn5RcvoY combinando animaciones / paseos existentes y usando ángulos de cámara para evitar intersecciones feas.

 Nice! :D


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#6 Ralvaz1

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 01:05 PM

Ese tipo de animación, una interacción títere-títere, es probablemente la más compleja y difícil de hacer bien.

 

Si la memoria sirve, aparte de las interacciones de stock empacadas con Moviestorm, hay muy pocos ejemplos que conozco: 3DTree y Chris Ollie hicieron algunos de ellos, y hay el paquete de contenido de AfterDark. Y eso es todo, creo.

 

Una animación de baile, con ambos títeres moviéndose coordinadamente por todo el piso, ¡nunca he visto una cosa tan compleja!

 

Respondiendo a sus preguntas, "¿sería posible?": Sí, se puede hacer. "¿Implica mucha dificultad?", Es un verdadero infierno de un trabajo, incluso para un animador de primera clase, a menos que un buen sistema de mocap y las herramientas para importar los datos de mocap están disponibles. Ah, y un par de bailarines!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand, it will be best to use tricks with gestures already created


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#7 jamoram62

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 04:40 PM

 

Hace mucho tiempo (camino de regreso en beta), pero tuve que ir a fingir una rutina de baile  https://youtu.be/JghXn5RcvoY combinando animaciones / paseos existentes y usando ángulos de cámara para evitar intersecciones feas.

 

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 05:18 PM

Hi Kate...

Now that's good old fashion Directing and Use of your Camera angles work. 

 

Brian




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