18 replies to this topic

[BrianGray]

We the people who have been loyal and supporting of MS and each other now deal with:

 

1. being pushed aside for another project. Ok I get it and was ok like the others for awhile. Now it seems that we've been forgotten by MS. (Loyalty should matter. At least say something to us once in awhile MS)

 

2. the people wanting the current MS tenants to help them find a compatible or better home. (You people obviously have internet access. Don't be lazy, GOOGLE IT YOURSELF)

 

3. the growing number of porn ads that seem to be slowly taking over. (Don't misunderstand me, porns fine in the right place. But what is it about us that say's "these poor MS soles neeeed porn")

 

 

 I'll climb down from my soapbox now. Happy movie making to my MS neighbors. I'll be adding more addons to the Vault this weekend.

 

 

 

Brian

 

[Ralvaz1]

Yes, they have forgotten about us. We are not only users of a Forum but, in addition, we are customers, and a client, should be given better treatment, attention and above all, respect

[mloakley]

Even though I've only have been using MS since last yr, I Love it. I've recently had to reinstall MS as I upgraded my PC with a SSD card, and it needed to be connected to the website to install all that is needed (licenses, addons purchased, updates, etc) My concern is what if the site is no longer available or running? And in the future if I have or anyone else, to do a clean install will one be able to?

 

I've been learning fragmo more, and altho I'm getting familiar w/ puppet animations, besides not having the animation work for all puppets depending on the costume, male or female, it still is cool to create and see my animation work inside MS.

 

I'm also working on animal rigging and animation. Fun.

 

Met some great people and made some friends along the way here.

 

I usually pop in daily to see what's up.  

 

And thank you, Brian, for maintaining the Addons vault. It is appreciated. 

 

Hoping MS doesn't become a ghost town. 

 

~M

 

 

 

[primaveranz]

Yup, in three days time I will have been here 10 years. I have had a great time with MS - it really changed my life in many ways.

 

However I think it is time for me to accept the truth and move on, I see no use continuing to whip a dead horse.

[kkffoo]

Before everyone disappears, I wonder if it might be worthwhile setting up an alternative forum somewhere?

[BrianGray]

Hello Neighbors...

Change of plans. It'll be a few days later before I upload more addons. When I upload addons I'm going to be uploading all notes and tutorials that I have come across. Hoping it'll help people like mloakley who are trying to learn this stuff. 

 

Also If prim can see it through 10 years (Congratulations prim) then I'll be here to help if I can until they take the site down. Although I agree with you prim about the dead horse metaphor. I hope you'll still stick around awhile longer. Thank you all that have helped me. 

 

Talk soon, Brian.

[Ralvaz1]

Before everyone disappears, I wonder if it might be worthwhile setting up an alternative forum somewhere?

 

I agree with you, it's better to prevent. There are still people interested in Moviestorm and many others still do not know this program, unless the administrators make an appearance and give us the appropriate explanations, if the forum is going to be closed or not, if it is going to update Moviestorm or is not going to update ... Here there is a lot of work of many people it would be a pity if all was lost

[Ralvaz1]

Hello Neighbors...

Change of plans. It'll be a few days later before I upload more addons. When I upload addons I'm going to be uploading all notes and tutorials that I have come across. Hoping it'll help people like mloakley who are trying to learn this stuff. 

 

Also If prim can see it through 10 years (Congratulations prim) then I'll be here to help if I can until they take the site down. Although I agree with you prim about the dead horse metaphor. I hope you'll still stick around awhile longer. Thank you all that have helped me. 

 

Talk soon, Brian.

 

Thanks Brian for all the work you are doing for us

[Ralvaz1]

Yup, in three days time I will have been here 10 years. I have had a great time with MS - it really changed my life in many ways.

 

However I think it is time for me to accept the truth and move on, I see no use continuing to whip a dead horse.

Until Jamoram62 has disappeared from the Forum

[mloakley]

Again, Thank you, Brian for all you do. And congrats to Prim!

 

Ralvaz1 partial quote "if the forum is going to be closed or not, if it is going to update Moviestorm or is not going to update ... Here there is a lot of work of many people it would be a pity if all was lost" 

I agree.

 

 

 

[EugeneE]

My profile says that I joined Sept 30, 2007, can't believe it's been 11 years.

 

Everyone here does have a point. Everyone who has Moviestorm and paid for it wether they paid for it themselves or it was gifted to them, we are all customers and no company survives by ignoring their customers. Also, there hasn't been any developments in Moviestorm in several years and I believe that this has caused some users to stop using the program and also leave the forums. Some users have left Moviestorm and switched to Iclone.

 

As Ralvaz1 said, it does look like they have forgotten about us. 

 

[TheQuestIsTheQuest]

Hello! I've kinda lurked here for ages. Had Moviestorm for a while, but haven't finished a movie yet! Anyway, it's interesting the another project Moviestorm are part of. Seems to be more focused on 'pre-viz'. But in the video I'm sharing now, it's interesting to see clearly Moviestorm assets being used in what looks like something you would use in VR.

I got that from here http://first-stage.eu/deliverables.html#demonstrators 

[coolwebranger]

Frankly there is not a great deal we can do about the apparent lack of interest from the developers. We live in hope of some future software development but in the meantime just have to make the best of it and enjoy whilst its here.

 

Having said that my belief is that they will eventually provide the code open source and then we will rely upon others picking up the reins. The potential is massive and whilst I simply don't have any software development skills, I am pretty convinced that those who do, will seize the opportunity and push ahead with it.

 

Pie in the sky? I don't think so. You only have to look at the success of other complex open source software, such as Audacity audio editing software, for example that many of us use, I'm sure, to see how open source can work very well.

 

Marketing is the key to open source working well and few people would deny that Moviestorm makes filmmaking and animation accessible to novices in a way that no other software does as well. More people need to know about its capabilities and potential.

 

I-Clone is brilliant software but I understand that the learning curve is very steep.

 

I recently posted by first project, Q, on YouTube. It's a 24 minute animation and has been produced from a standing start at beginning of November 2018 when I was first introduced to the software. I had very little filmmaking experience apart from a month playing around with Muvizu.

 

I am not claiming that Q is Oscar winning material, but I certainly couldn't have achieved what I have done in so short a time with I-Clone. I had a trial version and really found it very daunting. OK, if push comes to shove and Moviestorm disappears, then I will purchase I-Clone and learn how to use it, as I am retired, have the time and would welcome the challenge, albeit daunting.

 

However, in the meantime I will soldier on with Moviestorm, happy in the knowledge I have something fantastic to work with whilst its here and hopefully will develop in the future.

 

Good luck everyone who still remain.

 

best wishes

 

Dennis

[mloakley]

I tried iClone as well, and I suppose not always having much patience sometimes ... lol, it is a steep learning curve. Plus the purchase of this and that. I imagine if push came to shove as well, I'd turn to perhaps iClone and the time consumption to learn it. 

 

When I found Moviestorm, dare I say, it gave me hope to bring my stories, ideas, etc. to life. It's ease was inspiring. I've never played around with any animation til MS. Of course with working I don't always have the time to learn complicated programs. 

 

And having MS, I learned to do some animations and create some prop mods. Very cool. Never done that before.

 

I guess we'll have to wait & see if MS should ever eventually become open source. I hope it will get the chance to develop in the future too.

 

And yes, in the meantime, I'm having fun with it. 

 

~M

 

 

[kkffoo]

My feeling is that Moviestorm just keeps going because there isn't any real competition out there. Iclone is  hard to learn and expensive to stock, other programs too basic.

Anyone who is having fun should continue to do so.

 

I believe  that Jamoram is unwell at the moment

 

 

[EugeneE]

Software exists as long as people use it. In fact, there are people making animations to this day using older software even software from the 1980's.

 

[Greywolf]

Hi everybody

 

I am new to Moviestorm, although not new to mediaart. In my 2nd job I am a photographer and I have been also playing around with Unity and Unreal for quite a while in order to make a small game. I recently had the idea that there should be a sort of software on the market to accomplish a small movie. While doing a research on that topic I dropped over the triumvirate Muvizu, Moviestrom and iClone - the rest I found were rather Explainers and similar stuff.

Now, since Muvizu is fine but is specialized on comics while iClone comes near to Unity as for complexity, there was only Moviestorm left. First I was kind of shocked. After going into administration, Muvizu is left as is and is now in chinese hands which explains all. And Moviestorm seems to be abadoned by the Devs.

 

But then, as some of you already mentioned, what we really want, is to bring a small movie to the finnishline and there are good reasons why this is difficult for a single person by using software like iClone while for the same reasons it is well possible with Moviestorm as hundreds of nice movies can proof.

As such I am 100% onboard with what e.g. kkffoo said, "...there isn't any real competition out there".

That said, looking around what people achieved with Moviestorm, IMO it is a wonderful piece of software in the right hands. In any case I will try my best to give it the deserved chance. Hope to see you around here for a while.

 

Clear skies and good filmmaking

[coolwebranger]

thats the spirit. Welcome. If you have any problems there are folk around to help.

 

best wishes

 

dennis

[mloakley]

Welcome aboard, Greywolf. Glad to have you part of the MS community.

 

~M