How many modders who don't want their mods in commercial products?
 
ehughes
post Jan 25 2011, 6:09 AM
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I'm starting a new project soon, and want to make sure I'm not using any mods in my projects created by someone who doesn't want them used in any commercial products.

Can we make a list, and keep it locked at the top of this forum for reference? That way, users won't make the mistake of crossing any copyright boundaries? Thanks much guys!

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post Feb 7 2011, 3:21 PM
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License terms for mods isn't something that Moviestorm is prepared to - or should be - involved in. However, we'd suggest the following general approach.

- It's good practice to credit modders, particularly those who contribute significant mods. However, sometimes this isn't practical, for example, if it would make the list of credits too long for the movie. And sometimes, people forget who created a mod, or forget they've used a particular mod, especially if it's only on-screen briefly. So if your mod is used and not credited, be reasonable about it.

- If there are no specific licensing terms, assume that people will feel free to use your mod in commercial projects, especially if they've paid for it.

- If you specifically don't want your mod used in commercial projects, say so before the user downloads it.

- If your mod does turn up in a commercial project, it's usually best to assume it's an honest mistake and the director didn't know, had forgotten, or didn't realize your mod was actually in there. Again, be reasonable about it: most "commercial" machinima projects earn a few hundred bucks at most, and you're not being swindled out of thousands of dollars in royalties, even if your mod is center stage.

- Obviously if someone is repackaging your mod and reselling it under their own name, that's a completely different matter to using mods in commercial movie projects. However, there's certainly a grey area when it comes to mods of mods, and that usually needs to be settled on a case by case basis.

It's important to keep this issue in proportion, though. Very few people make commercial machinima. It's not something most modders will ever have to worry about.


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- ehughes   How many modders who don't want their mods in commercial products?   Jan 25 2011, 6:09 AM
- - andy_price   I am happy for my mods to be used in commercial pr...   Jan 25 2011, 6:35 AM
|- - jaydenkurteckford   andy price, im making a horror film, its about fou...   Sep 11 2011, 10:00 AM
- - kkffoo   I am happy for all the mods I have posted so far t...   Jan 25 2011, 9:22 AM
- - primaveranz   It would be easier if everyone included e.g. a Cre...   Jan 25 2011, 9:39 AM
|- - ehughes   QUOTE (primaveranz @ Jan 25 2011, 09:39 A...   Feb 6 2011, 1:07 AM
- - luxaeternam   For those wishing to use Creative Commons here is ...   Jan 25 2011, 10:44 AM
- - kkffoo   All the creative commons licenses have attribution...   Jan 25 2011, 10:55 AM
|- - Chris Ollis   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Jan 25 2011, 10:55 AM) Al...   Jan 25 2011, 10:59 AM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Jan 25 2011, 09:55 PM) Al...   Jan 25 2011, 11:10 AM
|- - luxaeternam   QUOTE (primaveranz @ Jan 25 2011, 12:10 P...   Jan 25 2011, 1:15 PM
- - lucindamc123   All my addons are free for you to use as you wish,...   Jan 25 2011, 1:05 PM
|- - ehughes   QUOTE (lucindamc123 @ Jan 25 2011, 01:05 ...   Feb 6 2011, 1:09 AM
|- - lucindamc123   QUOTE (ehughes @ Feb 5 2011, 07:09 PM) WH...   Feb 6 2011, 1:47 AM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (ehughes @ Feb 6 2011, 12:09 PM) WH...   Feb 6 2011, 4:02 AM
|- - corthew   QUOTE (lucindamc123 @ Feb 5 2011, 08:47 P...   Feb 13 2011, 1:51 AM
- - willshetterly   For the record, if any of my mods are still useful...   Jan 25 2011, 2:46 PM
- - kv   I don`t mind my mods being used in any movies,...   Jan 25 2011, 3:04 PM
- - writerly   If I really cared about copyright on the assets I ...   Jan 25 2011, 4:46 PM
- - corthew   In the event that I ever create an original mod, w...   Jan 26 2011, 1:20 AM
- - Poulet Noir   As with most other posters here a credit would be ...   Jan 26 2011, 11:43 AM
- - sfdex   FWIW, if you're putting a Creative Commons lic...   Jan 28 2011, 6:16 PM
- - kkffoo   I'm afraid it isn't easy. Staff here have ...   Feb 6 2011, 2:09 PM
- - lucindamc123   When you make a commercial movie or even if you ju...   Feb 6 2011, 3:01 PM
- - Nahton   My experience on the TMO/TMU sites was that it was...   Feb 6 2011, 3:10 PM
- - kkffoo   What you are asking is clearly impossible. Studio...   Feb 6 2011, 4:00 PM
|- - Nahton   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 6 2011, 11:00 AM) Wha...   Feb 6 2011, 5:08 PM
|- - corthew   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 6 2011, 11:00 AM) Wha...   Feb 13 2011, 2:31 AM
- - ehughes   I think it's an important discussion to have g...   Feb 6 2011, 6:45 PM
|- - lucindamc123   QUOTE (ehughes @ Feb 6 2011, 12:45 PM) I ...   Feb 6 2011, 7:57 PM
|- - Chris Ollis   The logical thing is don't make your mods avai...   Feb 6 2011, 8:20 PM
- - andy_price   There is a differences between commercial and non-...   Feb 6 2011, 8:45 PM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (andy_price @ Feb 7 2011, 07:45 AM)...   Feb 6 2011, 9:11 PM
|- - Chris Ollis   QUOTE (andy_price @ Feb 6 2011, 08:45 PM)...   Feb 6 2011, 10:10 PM
|- - lucindamc123   The difference there is probably that the seamstre...   Feb 6 2011, 10:28 PM
- - kkffoo   I wonder how much money? From one mod? Let's s...   Feb 6 2011, 8:58 PM
- - andy_price   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 6 2011, 08:58 PM) I r...   Feb 6 2011, 9:11 PM
|- - lucindamc123   I agree with you Andy and even for movies you don...   Feb 6 2011, 10:32 PM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (lucindamc123 @ Feb 7 2011, 09:32 A...   Feb 6 2011, 10:58 PM
- - andy_price   I think that a lot of people have got the wrong en...   Feb 6 2011, 11:18 PM
- - luxaeternam   It seems to me that the only logical options are (...   Feb 7 2011, 7:33 AM
- - kkffoo   I wonder if this thread might have worked better t...   Feb 7 2011, 8:03 AM
|- - Chris Ollis   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 7 2011, 08:03 AM) I w...   Feb 7 2011, 8:39 AM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (Chris Ollis @ Feb 7 2011, 07:39 PM...   Feb 7 2011, 10:22 AM
- - kkffoo   That sounds like a great idea Chris. I know many ...   Feb 7 2011, 8:46 AM
- - andy_price   QUOTE (Chris Ollis @ Feb 7 2011, 08:39 AM...   Feb 7 2011, 9:15 AM
|- - gitsch   Re :License terms for mods isn't something tha...   Feb 9 2011, 9:17 AM
|- - lucindamc123   I have made commercial shorts with Moviestorm and ...   Feb 9 2011, 1:40 PM
- - kkffoo   Any chance we can have this as a sticky somewhere?   Feb 7 2011, 3:28 PM
|- - Moviestorm   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 7 2011, 03:28 PM) Any...   Feb 8 2011, 4:40 PM
- - Moviestorm   I posted a long piece about credits on the Moviest...   Feb 8 2011, 6:25 PM
|- - lucindamc123   Your blog would not allow me to comment so I will ...   Feb 9 2011, 1:55 PM
- - Harb40   As a general rule, in my Passion Competitions, I r...   Feb 8 2011, 6:40 PM
- - kkffoo   How much do people earn for commercial Machinima. ...   Feb 10 2011, 9:22 AM
- - luxaeternam   I'd better hang on to my day job, then!   Feb 10 2011, 10:42 AM
- - iceaxe   At the risk of dragging this thread down a non-rel...   Feb 10 2011, 10:50 AM
- - lucindamc123   You are not going to make much with using computer...   Feb 10 2011, 1:38 PM
- - kkffoo   The commercial machinimators that I know tend to w...   Feb 10 2011, 3:02 PM
|- - lucindamc123   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 10 2011, 09:02 AM) Th...   Feb 10 2011, 3:10 PM
- - iceaxe   Aww come on Lucinda. I'm all for encouraging p...   Feb 10 2011, 5:04 PM
|- - lucindamc123   I still don't want you to give up on your drea...   Feb 10 2011, 6:21 PM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (lucindamc123 @ Feb 11 2011, 05:21 ...   Feb 10 2011, 8:15 PM
|- - lucindamc123   QUOTE (primaveranz @ Feb 10 2011, 02:15 P...   Feb 10 2011, 8:16 PM
- - andy_price   I have just released my first commercial mods, and...   Feb 10 2011, 6:08 PM
- - kkffoo   This is getting seriously off-topic! When i as...   Feb 11 2011, 8:53 AM
- - iceaxe   No. But history will show that I was right when I...   Feb 11 2011, 9:05 AM
|- - lucindamc123   I started a new forum topic about this since someo...   Feb 11 2011, 2:28 PM
|- - primaveranz   QUOTE (iceaxe @ Feb 11 2011, 08:05 PM) Of...   Feb 11 2011, 11:14 PM
- - kkffoo   Corthew, I'm not sure what you think is silly?...   Feb 13 2011, 9:06 AM
|- - corthew   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 13 2011, 04:06 AM) Co...   Feb 13 2011, 12:03 PM
- - kkffoo   Are you a modder, or a film maker, or a bit of bot...   Feb 13 2011, 12:27 PM
|- - corthew   QUOTE (kkffoo @ Feb 13 2011, 07:27 AM) Ar...   Feb 13 2011, 12:45 PM
- - kkffoo   I think it is a balancing act for sure.   Feb 13 2011, 1:44 PM
- - PapaG   Go a head and use any of my mods the way you see ...   Feb 24 2011, 10:14 PM
- - decorgal   I know this is an older thread but just wanted to ...   May 25 2011, 4:02 PM
- - willshetterly   I'm with the folks who think credit for a mod ...   May 25 2011, 5:57 PM
- - andy_price   I do believe that there are already some horror an...   Sep 11 2011, 1:52 PM


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