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#1 BA

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 11:21 PM

Just a quick tutorial on how to create true 3D films that you can watch on your home 3D TV.

First, get a decent smart 3D TV smile.gif

OK, no more jokes.

This is for use with the standard in the UK which is side by side 3D, these can be played on all UK standard 3D TV's and is the standard adopted by Sky the BBC and ITV for broadcast in the UK.

Obviously you first need to create the two films one for the left eye and one for the right, how you do that in Moviestorm I'm not sure these days. I'll let the gurus work that one out. I'm sure it can be done by creating two slightly different camera tracks ?

Then in Vegas import the two films on two tracks and synch them up. The further away from the camera the bit of the image is, the less it should differ between the two images.

Mark the left eye and right eye tracks on the tracks in Vegas so you don't get confused, I know I do.



Then set each clip to wide screen 16:9 aspect ratio.



Then ON THE LEFT TRACK MOTION, set the Position X to 320 and half the width to 640 (it was 720x1280 full screen in this file, but whatever you set your full screen size to, half it)



IMPORTANT. The left eye image goes to the right hand side of the screen and the right goes to the left hand side. If you image looks funny you probably have it wrong, just swap the clips over between the tracks.

Then ON THE RIGHT TRACK MOTION, set the Position X to -320 and half the width to 640



Render it as AVI or WMV (Smart TV's play any of these files) and play it on your home 3D TV with either active or passive 3D glasses (whatever your TV requires).

Job done.

Here is a small 30 second clip I rendered you can play on your 3D TV to show how it looks.

http://blackaceprodu...ds/Films/3D.wmv

This wasn't done in Moviestorm but that doesn't really matter. As long as you can slightly shift the camera position and retake the clip it will work just fine. I know Moviestorm is very good at doing things like that.

Finally all you need is a good media server that allows you to play your PC content on your smart TV through your router. I find Nero Media home is good, but other servers are available.

Good luck !!



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Posted 19 December 2011 - 11:32 PM

Excellent tutorial, and good to see you again BA!

The new version of MS "can now render stereoscopic 3D left and right eye views as separate renders, allowing you to re-combine them in the 3D software of you choice", so this is timely indeed smile.gif

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:06 AM

I guessed as much, but instead of those horrible green and red glasses, wouldn't it be better to be able to watch it on a Huge 55" 3D TV using the same glasses as you normally do smile.gif

All it takes is a few simple settings in vegas and you can do that.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:13 AM

QUOTE (BA @ Dec 19 2011, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guessed as much, but instead of those horrible green and red glasses, wouldn't it be better to be able to watch it on a Huge 55" 3D TV using the same glasses as you normally do smile.gif

All it takes is a few simple settings in vegas and you can do that.



You're thinking Anaglyphic. Stereoscopic is side by side image you cross your eyes to bring together to get the 3d effect. In the real world they are taken with two cameras mounted side-by-side or a single camera with two lenses each exposing only one half of the film frame.

Think in terms of the kid's viewers that look like binoculars but you put a disk of images in and turn it to see different scenes in 3d while you look through the two lenses.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:49 AM

The technique above will give you full DBV 3D-TV side by side broadcast formatting that any commercial 3D TV can display. No need to cross your eyes or resort to Anaglyphic glasses.

Your normal Active or passive circular polarised glasses for a passive TV will suffice (the same you use at the cinema).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB_3D-TV
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 12:58 AM

It goes without saying that your TV must be in 3D mode, or all you see are the two images side by side. In 3D mode you get the full screen image as the TV interlaces the two images for you.

If you don't have a 3D TV and you were unlucky enough to stumble upon the BBC's broadcast of Strictly come dancing on Saturday night on their HD channel then what you saw was a 3D image through a 2D TV. Hence you see two images side by side.

With a 3D TV in 3D mode these two images are interlaced and polarised by the TV and you see a full single image in 3D, just like at the movies.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 01:03 AM

I have an LG 47LW550T LED HD 1080p 3D. I've been playing about with producing broadcasts that can be played on it for a few days now and was surprised at how simple it is to actually produce good quality 3D images that can be shown in full 3D on a commercially available 3D TV.
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 02:03 AM

Another small example clip.

remember, your 3D TV must be in 3D side by side mode to display the picture correctly.

http://blackaceprodu...s/Films/3D2.wmv

Does the Arts-picture house in Cambridge have 3D capability ?

It would be nice to see the first Moviestorm Cinema Format 3D picture at the next Cambridge Film Festival.
Matt and Dave Review our last film "Faith Hope and Charity". http://blackaceprodu...ious/Review.wma


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